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« on: September 27, 2011, 08:02:31 PM »
http://www.autoguide.com/manufacturer/mazda/2012-honda-civic-si-vs-2012-mazdaspeed3-video-1609.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2011, 08:20:46 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 08:55:09 PM »
Nice  icon_lol I think Mazda could add a few more HP through fine tuning tho. If Honda were to decide to turbocharge or even supercharge their si, they would reclaim the crown
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 09:00:50 PM »
Sad to say the 2011 made more HP then the 2012...  dontknow

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/civic-si/269135-2012-civic-si-dyno-video-made-less-hp-than-k20.html
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 09:31:45 PM »
Quote from: Alex on September 27, 2011, 09:00:50 PM
Sad to say the 2011 made more HP then the 2012...  dontknow

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/civic-si/269135-2012-civic-si-dyno-video-made-less-hp-than-k20.html
damn. I'm not really familiar with Honda motors but isn't the k20 their best motor? That's not bad for a 2.0 NA. I haven't even stock dynoed my base. I wonder how it would compare, estimated 148hp
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 10:00:17 PM »
Quote from: 08MZ3SD09 on September 27, 2011, 09:31:45 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 27, 2011, 09:00:50 PM
Sad to say the 2011 made more HP then the 2012...  dontknow

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/civic-si/269135-2012-civic-si-dyno-video-made-less-hp-than-k20.html
damn. I'm not really familiar with Honda motors but isn't the k20 their best motor? That's not bad for a 2.0 NA. I haven't even stock dynoed my base. I wonder how it would compare, estimated 148hp


That's what gets me. It uses the same (similar) motor in the TSX and that is a pretty fast car. I think what the problems might be is that they are worried and focusing too much time and energy into fuel efficiency and making it affordable. Plus its a "vtec crossover" whatever that is  icon_scratch

Here is a stock tsx what put down 189 Whp/ 148.9 Ft. Lbs
http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=666732

idk where the 14whp went  icon_scratch
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2011, 10:19:57 PM »
Quote from: Alex on September 27, 2011, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: 08MZ3SD09 on September 27, 2011, 09:31:45 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 27, 2011, 09:00:50 PM
Sad to say the 2011 made more HP then the 2012...  dontknow

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/civic-si/269135-2012-civic-si-dyno-video-made-less-hp-than-k20.html
damn. I'm not really familiar with Honda motors but isn't the k20 their best motor? That's not bad for a 2.0 NA. I haven't even stock dynoed my base. I wonder how it would compare, estimated 148hp


That's what gets me. It uses the same (similar) motor in the TSX and that is a pretty fast car. I think what the problems might be is that they are worried and focusing too much time and energy into fuel efficiency and making it affordable. Plus its a "vtec crossover" whatever that is  icon_scratch

Here is a stock tsx what put down 189 Whp/ 148.9 Ft. Lbs
http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=666732

idk where the 14whp went  icon_scratch
heavier wheels and different tires?  icon_scratch its a sad reality car companies are focusing more on efficiency. But at least they are trying to make it efficient and enjoyable. Bad thing is,  with fuel efficient motors, there's very little room for mods
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2011, 11:32:55 PM »
Speed3 may be faster but I'd still want an Si over it. Why? More aftermarket support. Where the Speed3 will eventually taper off at some point in terms of mod potential, that Si will just keep going, and going, and going to the point where the Si comes out to be faster anyways. Let's be honest, who here keeps their cars stock? Ok, I'm sure there's a select few, but you get my point. That and I'm just not a big fan of hatches.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2011, 11:47:44 PM »
not a fair comparison of course the ms3 won.
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 08:51:15 AM »
You know what, between the new Si redesign and the MS3 smiley, I'll take that pu$$y eating grin any day of the week  icon_lol
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2011, 08:54:23 AM »
Also, why the hell is the civic $23k?!?! The previous gen 4-door civic si went for like 19k...
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2011, 08:55:09 AM »
Quote from: Circuit on September 28, 2011, 08:54:23 AM
Also, why the hell is the civic $23k?!?! The previous gen 4-door civic si went for like 19k...

+1..and the new 4-door looks like a Carolla  icon_lol
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2011, 08:57:02 AM »
Quote from: Don Nik on September 28, 2011, 08:51:15 AM
You know what, between the new Si redesign and the MS3 smiley, I'll take that pu$$y eating grin any day of the week  icon_lol
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2011, 09:01:21 AM »
Quote from: 08MZ3SD09 on September 28, 2011, 08:57:02 AM
Quote from: Don Nik on September 28, 2011, 08:51:15 AM
You know what, between the new Si redesign and the MS3 smiley, I'll take that pu$$y eating grin any day of the week  icon_lol
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2011, 09:07:54 AM »
i wouldnt mind an SI i was going to get one but when i saw price i was like  cussing, might as well go for the speed 3 which i always wanted. , honda is a great car but did wan to spend 8k on moding it to be faster,
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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 09:22:08 AM »
Quote from: Miguel on September 27, 2011, 11:32:55 PM
Speed3 may be faster but I'd still want an Si over it. Why? More aftermarket support. Where the Speed3 will eventually taper off at some point in terms of mod potential, that Si will just keep going, and going, and going to the point where the Si comes out to be faster anyways. Let's be honest, who here keeps their cars stock? Ok, I'm sure there's a select few, but you get my point. That and I'm just not a big fan of hatches.
One of the things I like about the MS3 is the limited aftermarket support - there is enough to do what i want...and i can be somewhat unique...too many honda fanbois out there with modded civics...
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 09:37:01 AM »
Meh I can't fully agree with that.  It sucks not to have great cosmetic parts that a fuckin' unreleased Honda already has waiting to be sold by a vendor.  icon_lol
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2011, 09:54:58 AM »
For the price stock for stock, I'd still probably take the Speed. But if I were to go heavily modded after I get it, Si all the way. I have never driven an Si, but it's probably similar to an RSX-S and they aren't bad cars. They maybe be torqueless, but they can still get up and go. But the new Si isn't as attractive to me as the 09-10' Si. And the new Si only gained some torque compared to the old Si.
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2011, 10:26:27 AM »
Quote from: Ninja_Driver on September 28, 2011, 09:22:08 AM
Quote from: Miguel on September 27, 2011, 11:32:55 PM
Speed3 may be faster but I'd still want an Si over it. Why? More aftermarket support. Where the Speed3 will eventually taper off at some point in terms of mod potential, that Si will just keep going, and going, and going to the point where the Si comes out to be faster anyways. Let's be honest, who here keeps their cars stock? Ok, I'm sure there's a select few, but you get my point. That and I'm just not a big fan of hatches.
One of the things I like about the MS3 is the limited aftermarket support - there is enough to do what i want...and i can be somewhat unique...too many honda fanbois out there with modded civics...

+1 to what Nick said. It is hard to be unique when there are only 2 lips available for your car, and one is OEM  icon_lol
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 10:27:49 AM »
Quote from: Ninja_Driver on September 28, 2011, 09:22:08 AM
Quote from: Miguel on September 27, 2011, 11:32:55 PM
Speed3 may be faster but I'd still want an Si over it. Why? More aftermarket support. Where the Speed3 will eventually taper off at some point in terms of mod potential, that Si will just keep going, and going, and going to the point where the Si comes out to be faster anyways. Let's be honest, who here keeps their cars stock? Ok, I'm sure there's a select few, but you get my point. That and I'm just not a big fan of hatches.
One of the things I like about the MS3 is the limited aftermarket support - there is enough to do what i want...and i can be somewhat unique...too many honda fanbois out there with modded civics...

How is it being unique when everybody else has the same mods as you?
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